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interview // german // 3:17 Min // 17.06.2008
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The main Nazis, they hid away; took shelter somewhere. Back then, when the partisans were there. Some of them came back out of their holes the end of May and for a while they were like Stasi (secret police of East Germany), you could say. Again, as time went on they showed themselves as what they were; that they were Nazis. And that told us that they believed us to be the betrayers; and even today the word ‘betrayer’ or ‘betrayer of freedom’ is sticking to us. How can an Austrian or authority say ‘betrayer’? In those days when the roll call came: “Let’s go against fascism, for Austria” – where were the people? In Stalingrad, did they fight for Austria, there? That’s why the ways are so different and why we will never agree about what had happened. We celebrate the big party and the others are thelosers. Yes, that is something. But for the ones, who were members of the German ‘Wehrmacht’ the governor and authorities always lay down wreaths on All Saint’s Day. But never in front of a partisan’s grave. And there are 53 monuments and graves of the partisans in Carinthia. But there nobody ever put a wreath down – nobody, officially. And there were 50.000 deserters who were shot in Germany. Nobody remembers them either. – You know – as if there hadn’t been any. Only the one who was with Hitler up to the end, was the right one; according to their rules. Well that was quite sad, it drags on; according to them we were all betrayers. But we did not betray Austria – but those betrayed Austria in the year 1938, when they voted for Hitler.
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